National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Jamie McBride, LAPD Det., Police Union President, and Actor
Hi. This is sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith with the National Police Association, and this is the National Police Association podcast. I have a guest with me today I have admired him for years, and, I have been wanting to bring him to you for, about as long as I've had this show. But he's a busy guy, and, we finally got a chance to be able to sit down and speak.
Betsy Smith:So I want you to welcome detective Jamie McBride to the show. Jamie, thanks so much for being here.
Det. Jamie McBride:Absolutely.
Betsy Smith:Hey. So you are, you're a detective. You're, part of the union. You have been a police officer for so many years. You're also a dad and a grandpa and an activist.
Betsy Smith:You wear a lot of hats. But I'm gonna ask you the question I ask every police guest that I have. Why'd you become a cop?
Det. Jamie McBride:Well, that's an interesting story. I don't know if you have enough time, but, I was about 15 years old. And you know, didn't like high school. So I cut class all the time. I was always in trouble.
Det. Jamie McBride:I was 15. I remember I walked outside of my house. I was looking around thinking, what am I going to do for a living? And I looked next door and my neighbor was an Oxnard PD cop. And I was like, I looked and he had a house, a boat and a car.
Det. Jamie McBride:I'm like, yeah, I think I'll do that. So that's kind of the route I went. And I didn't need a college education because I wasn't going to college.
Betsy Smith:That's a great. First of all, that's a great story. But secondly, you know, when we talk about, policing now in 2025, you know, because it used to be, oh, everybody wanted a college educated cop and all of that. I'm I really believe that I don't think college education is necessary for being a police officer. What do you think?
Det. Jamie McBride:Absolutely not. You know, there's a need. I mean, obviously higher education is fine if you're going to use that education to to better yourself in a career. For law enforcement, I went to the Sheriff's Academy when I was 20 and I went to LAPD at 21 and they both said the same thing. Police work is 90% common sense.
Det. Jamie McBride:So you can be book smart. You can have all kinds of masters, which I'm sure you've come across in your career. I know I have. I've had many people that had master's degrees and they're idiots. They don't know how to do police work.
Det. Jamie McBride:Know, they're, even as managers, they're shitty managers. So I have two daughters. They, they both joined LAPD. My youngest one started at 18. The funny story is this.
Det. Jamie McBride:They're about fifteen months apart. Jackie, my oldest started her first year in college to be a nurse. And I remember I looked at my younger daughter, Tony, and she was 17. I looked at Toni, I go, Toni, what are you gonna do for a living? So I'll be honest with you as a parent, we know our kids strengths and weaknesses, right?
Det. Jamie McBride:And hers was right after me. She wasn't college material. I knew that right off the bat. Jackie on the other hand, very smart. She eventually graduated with a nursing degree, Summa Cum Laude, very smart kid.
Det. Jamie McBride:But I looked at, I looked at Tony when she was 17. I go, what are you gonna do for a living? She goes, I think I'm gonna join the Peace Corps. And I said, well, that's not an option in this house. I said, why don't you go think about it and get back to me?
Det. Jamie McBride:So Tony came back to me and she goes, know, dad, I think I'm gonna become a police officer, which to be honest with you, I was kind of hoping because you know she I definitely knew she was gonna have a name on her on her shirt. Is either gonna say Tony at McDonald's or is gonna say McBride on the police department somewhere? So she joined at 18. I told her, I said, soon you turn 18, you're going go down. You're going to take the reserve test for LAPD as a reserve.
Det. Jamie McBride:She did that. Then at 20 years old, I said, you're going to take the test to be full time. She came on a full time at 20 and turned 21 two weeks before they graduated. And then Jackie did nursing through COVID. Did not like that experience.
Det. Jamie McBride:And then she said, Hey, I'm going join the police department. So now she joined LAPD as well, but definitely don't need college degree. I know they're pushing that in California now that after, I felt like a year it is that everybody has to have a, not only a college degree, a criminal justice degree. Now. I don't know if you have a degree.
Det. Jamie McBride:I don't know if it's in criminal justice. I don't know, but I'll tell you what. You don't want a criminal justice degree. You can't use that in any other profession. I told my daughter Jackie, I said, hey, nursing degree.
Det. Jamie McBride:Perfect. She keeps her credentials current. That was part of the agreement. She can take that education and go to any other state, become a nurse later if she wants to, or when she retires from LAPD. But what are you gonna do with a criminal justice degree?
Det. Jamie McBride:Let's say you get terminated or you realize law enforcement is not for you. What are you gonna do with that degree? Nothing. Right? So, you know, I think this whole thing that California has going is everybody has to have a criminal justice degree by a certain year.
Det. Jamie McBride:I think they're gonna have to change that because as you know, I tell everybody I've been on for thirty five years And 2020 was the worst time I've ever seen in law enforcement with the anti police movement, the defund the police movement. And you got to remember, I went, I went through the Rodney King riots. I went through, don't squeeze the juice with OJ. I've been through all this stuff all way along and that was the worst. Mean, I to this day I don't tell people what I do for a living just because I that fallout from 2020.
Det. Jamie McBride:But when I came on as a male white, at the time when I came on, had to score 96 or above to get hired because they had so many applicants they could be choosy on who they picked, right? And when I came on, there's about 130 people per class. Some, some months we had two classes going at a time. Now I, as a director for the union, I go to every new academy class every month. We're lucky to muster 30 people.
Det. Jamie McBride:And out of that 30 people, we may have other agencies that are putting their people through our academy. And then out of that 30, how many qualified candidates do we have? Because I'll tell you right now, there's some people I'm looking out there when I'm talking to them. I'm like, man, we're scraping the bottom of barrel. Not in all of them, but on some of them, can just tell.
Det. Jamie McBride:And then they either A, don't make a graduation or B, they come on a job and they decide it's not for them. In fact, one of my daughter's classmates went through one shift on graveyard, hesitated during a domestic violence incident when the husband got a little froggy on the partner and didn't jump in right away. She got off of work, calls me immediately and goes, Hey, I don't want to be a police officer anymore. Can I become a civilian employee? Per shift.
Det. Jamie McBride:That's a waste of somebody else's spot who really wanted to be a police officer. So, but yeah, the college degree thing, no, I don't, I, I don't think you need it. And we really, our profession is hurting for qualified candidates. We really, really are. And that's unfortunate, at least for LAPD.
Det. Jamie McBride:And I think it's across the nation from when I talked to other union leaders. So we need to do something. We need to do something fast so we can recruit people. And because it is a great profession, as you know, I mean, enforcement to me, I tell everybody it's like having a front row seat to the greatest show on Earth. You know, I couldn't see myself doing anything else.
Det. Jamie McBride:So it's it's been a blast for thirty five years. Don't get me wrong. That's some rough patches, but, overall, it's been a great career.
Betsy Smith:You know, you make so many great points and and that's the thing. When I I ran our recruitment team for a while and and I would tell the kids in high school that I was talking to, you know, and again, I have a degree they call it law enforcement administration. I can't do anything else with that. I wish I had a degree in business or accounting or something like that. And that's what we always told kids.
Betsy Smith:We said, think about what your specialty you might want it to be. And so then get a degree in math or accounting or business or education if you want to be a trainer, different things like that. And of course, we always hoped that we would get military veterans as well, which I'm hoping now that the United States military is getting back up to speed under, the secretary of war, Pete Hagsteth, that once those kids are getting out of the military after three, four, five years, and that they gravitate toward law enforcement. I think that will be a big boom for the profession, don't you?
Det. Jamie McBride:Sure. Absolutely. I ask everybody in every month in the class, hey, do we have any military people here? Fewer and fewer hands. And I think really it's our city because we have the civilian side that's doing the hiring, that's going through the process and we're trying to get back to the sworn side to do it.
Det. Jamie McBride:I know for a fact that they didn't want military guys who had combat experience, you know, which is a shame because there's, there's our best candidates right there as a military because we're quasi military. But going back to education though, interesting, you know, I came on, I could have been the chief of police with no education. And then when Bratton came his last day in the office or not, I'm sorry, towards his last day in office, he changed it to where you have to have an education in order to promote. I believe it was Bratton. I think it was Bratton.
Det. Jamie McBride:But anyways, you have to have an education in order to promote. I promoted to my rank just prior to that. You know, so I got, you know, grandfathered in, but I, but I had to peak. I'm not going back to get any more college credit, so I couldn't promote to a lieutenant captain and so on. But you know, tell everybody how stupid that is because what's a degree in Chicano studies going to do in law enforcement?
Det. Jamie McBride:Seriously, right? I mean, could a college degree to promote and there's really no specialty in that degree. It's absolutely worthless. But going back to what you said about the military, absolutely. I think that we need we as LAPD, I can't speak for everybody else, need to do a better job of recruiting more military personnel because they're used to working all hours.
Det. Jamie McBride:They're used to wearing a uniform, grooming standards. Here in California, the great state of California, I say that with a chuckle, our governor who is an idiot, you know he passed this. He signed this bill into law called the Crown Act and what the Crown Act is is that you're allowed to have any hairstyle that's your ethnic hairstyle. You can have all this craziness as long as it's your ethnic background type of thing. For example, you know, let's say a male black and he wants to have cornrows.
Det. Jamie McBride:Now they can have for LAPD. Now you can have cornrows. Now for LAPD, we used to be voted for a long time best uniform appearance in the nation in law enforcement. We took pride in that. We didn't.
Det. Jamie McBride:We don't allow beards in uniform. Goatees, beards, nothing, right? Now we have guys and females that are having their craziest hairstyles and they say it's their ethnic background because of the crown act they're going to. Then we have people that they come on the job that apparently they had no skin irritation at all. And also they come on and they have a skin irritation to shaving.
Det. Jamie McBride:They now they're getting medical notes to grow beards. I've wrote written several articles on it. And also now in the military, they have tattoos, which is fine. I'm, I'm sleeved out on both arms. And we have a policy that came out, I don't know now, maybe fifteen plus years ago that you have to cover up your tattoos.
Det. Jamie McBride:And the reason why it happened is somebody had an inappropriate tattoo and that started the whole thing. And at the time I was a little upset going like, wait a minute, we should be grandfathered in because you know, now you gotta wear long sleeves. But as time went on, I agree with policy, with that policy. And here's the reason why I've written articles on this as well. Because you have a lot of this generation now it's like, everybody gets tattoos.
Det. Jamie McBride:You know, you can get the guy who got his lunch money taken away and he's fully sleeved out now with the tattoos. It's not just the bikers and the bad guys. Like everybody gets tattoos nowadays. And then now everybody wants to, you know, why do we have to cover up our tattoos? Well, number one, first of you came on this job knowing that.
Det. Jamie McBride:Second of all, I have grim reapers and skulls on my arms. And I tell people what would happen if I have to go do a death notification because a nine year old girl was hit by the car coming home from school. I go to her parents house and all they remember is the grim reaper came to deliver the news, right? So it's a position of professionalism that we need to get back into. I know LAP were slipping a little bit.
Det. Jamie McBride:I know Chief Moore, who was an absolute train wreck as a chief, he just retired. He approved at the last minute this outer vest thing. I can't stand this. I know all these agencies now throughout the nation are carrying this outer vest thing and you always see coppers tucking their hands in like this and it's all and pretty soon they start adding everything else to it, know? And I think for us, it looks unprofessional.
Det. Jamie McBride:And if you're doing a search warrant, if you're in some kind of like tactical gear, that's great. But not for your everyday patrol or investigation out in the field. I think it looks like crap personally. And you know a lot of officers talk about Jimmy, can we wear black shirts? Tell the chief we want to wear black shirts because the triangle of death.
Det. Jamie McBride:I don't know if you ever heard that, right? You have a dark uniform, the triangle of death at night. Well, Chief Beck. You know, we've we wore long sleeves. You had to wear a tie and Chief Beck say, hey, you know what?
Det. Jamie McBride:A lot more people have tattoos now. We're requiring people to cover it up, so I'll allow you to take off your tie in long sleeves and you're allowed to wear a black shirt or a white shirt underneath. You know what? I'm Okay with that. You know, some people are really even a little more fart than me and say, my God, long sleeves.
Det. Jamie McBride:Should have a tie on. But I'm like, hey, you know what? It's actually comfortable, you know, to wear long sleeves and take off your tie. And now the officers want to wear a black T shirt with their short sleeves. That's what they're talking about.
Det. Jamie McBride:The same officers who were saying that Jamie, it's tactically, it's unsafe to wear this this white shirt at night. I'm like, but you got that outer vest on. I go now as a suspect, have something to grab onto and shake you around and control you. You know, I go to me, that's worse, you know? So I think some people are picking and choosing what they, what they want to gripe about.
Det. Jamie McBride:But, but, but again, I think we, we do have a great profession. We need to do a better job of recruiting people. I know I've recruited my my two daughters. I used to coach softball for ten years. I recruited softball players come on on the police department.
Det. Jamie McBride:So but I I I really think our profession is hurting across the nation as far as the quality of officers and as well as just getting people to apply. And that's why some of the standards have slipped because they're not getting the applicants, like they used to. Like I said, we should have thousands of people. Don't see Yeah.
Betsy Smith:And we, and we did. You know? I I got on the job about ten years before you did, also at age 21. And every department in in my area, in the Chicago area, you know, there were thousands of people applying for those jobs. Chicago PD, 10,000 people would apply for four or five jobs.
Betsy Smith:And and like you said, now we have a real hard time anywhere in this nation, with a a few exceptions like Florida, parts of Texas, things like that, even filling an academy class. Part of that too is just the the incredible pay differential around the country. You know? What what I would make in the Chicago area, you make in the in the LA area, you know, a cop in Mississippi or the Florida Panhandle or different places like that, you know, they're gonna make a, a, a half of that or, or even less. So there is a big pay differential.
Det. Jamie McBride:Oh, you know, I, I was talking to somebody for in, in the middle of this, of the country, dollars 14 an hour to put your life on the line, right? That's ridiculous. I remember talking to an Atlanta PD officer. Don't if it's changed since then, since I spoke to him, this is probably a good ten years ago, but he says, no, you know, most of our guys have, you know, six years in the department and then they leave and go to another department because their pension is so bad and they get 1% for every year they work for their pensions. So you gotta do a fifty year career to get a 50% pension.
Det. Jamie McBride:That's crazy, right? So I think that that needs to change for the officers. But $14 when I heard $14 an hour that one time, I was like shocked. I was like, wow. Get me wrong.
Det. Jamie McBride:When I first started, I'm sure like you, I would have done this job for free, you know? But as you get older, you want to get paid and start looking forward towards retirement. But you know, and it's funny because even LAPD, you know, I grew up in Ventura, which is about 50 miles north of Los Angeles. And I didn't really go to LA, you know, to me that was another world. Well, I was in the sheriff's academy at the time.
Det. Jamie McBride:And one of my classmates said, Hey, I just took LAPD's test and they got a big expo this weekend. You want to go with me? Oh, like, why am I doing it this weekend? Yeah, let's go. Right?
Det. Jamie McBride:So I remember I went there and it was the wow factor, right? It's just like you see in the movies. It's big towers, Los Angeles police department. I remember I walked up onto the field. They had the air unit, K-nine, SWAT, all these people, you know, bells and whistles.
Det. Jamie McBride:Are thousands of people there, literally. And I remember this officer in class A's walking by and has a long line of civilians. At the end was a sergeant in class A's and he looks at both me and my buddy goes, did you guys take the test yet? My buddy goes, yeah, did, but he didn't. The Sergeant walks over, grabs me by the elbow, puts me in the line and I'm here at the end of the line marching off.
Det. Jamie McBride:And I looked back at my buddy with my hands up the sergeant goes, you'll be done in forty five minutes. And next thing I know I became an LAPD cop. It was just, it's a fluke how things happened. But I wouldn't have changed it because LAPD like Chicago, it's so big and it's just wild place to work. But you know, again, I tell a lot of these officers, like my two daughters, that there's a famous saying in a Clint Eastwood movie, you know, where he says, a man has got to know his limitations.
Det. Jamie McBride:And I told my daughters, I said, you know what that means? I said, that means there's a lot of guys out there that can kick their ass. And there's a lot of guys out there that kick my ass. I said, but in reality, you're not kicking anybody's ass. So you got to know your limitations.
Det. Jamie McBride:You gotta rely on your partners, your tactics, communication, everything else. And that goes for male and female. Like I said, you know, I can get my ass kicked as easy, but you know, they're not going to, I don't see them winning any fights, to be honest with you. It's just not going happen. And that's just reality.
Det. Jamie McBride:And no fault to this person to show you about how things change, right? So LAPD is pushing this thing called 30 for 30. Are you familiar with this?
Betsy Smith:I'm extraordinarily familiar with it. I've spoken about it in the media a lot and I'm very against it. I
Det. Jamie McBride:I have two daughters that joined LAPD. So, but the 30 for 30 for those of you who don't know about it is a push for 30% female on LAPD by the year 02/1930. It's nationwide. It's nationwide? Now I found a way to solve that problem tomorrow.
Det. Jamie McBride:I think I, you know, as a union leader, I think I should just tell the membership, let's go in and tell everybody that we identify as female. And then we would solve that problem immediately. Know, no asterisk next to our name. We're just a female. So we just solved that.
Det. Jamie McBride:But anyways, but
Betsy Smith:In LA that might work.
Det. Jamie McBride:But we hired, some people who aren't citizens. Right? And they're here illegally. We hired them. One of them, it's a long story, but this one detective woke up in the middle of the night, heard something out in his front yard.
Det. Jamie McBride:There's two guys trying to break in, either break in his car or steal his car. As they're fleeing, they shoot at him. He takes off. He gets the license plate number, turns out to be registered to a recruit in the academy. It was her son who I believe were they're both, both of her sons were, I think documented Florencia thirteen gang members.
Det. Jamie McBride:But here it is. You have somebody who's not a citizen here that you let join the LAPD. How much of the background can you really date? I went through the ringer when I went through my background, but I mean, geez, I didn't catch that. Right?
Det. Jamie McBride:But we, because we, we lowered standards and we're doing this big push for 30 for 30 and no fault of this person. Okay. But we hired a female that's four foot nine. Four foot nine. Okay.
Det. Jamie McBride:Know, nowadays, you know, let's look at an SUV. Walking up there, can she clear the passenger's lap by looking in there? Probably not. There could be a gun sitting there. So, and no fault to her.
Det. Jamie McBride:I'm sure, you know,
Betsy Smith:Well, pardon be a high end, a white man who's four foot nine, Jamie.
Det. Jamie McBride:Same thing. Same thing.
Betsy Smith:But they probably wouldn't hire him, right?
Det. Jamie McBride:Right. Well, yeah, it probably wouldn't. But but same same thing applies, right? You know, we we changed a lot of things. So I know before we used to have, in order to be a motor officer, you had to be able to pick up your own bike.
Det. Jamie McBride:If you dropped it. Now they have the buddy system. So that way. You know, if you can't lift up your bike, your partner can help you lift up your bike. So there's been some adjustments and stuff, which maybe I've been on too long.
Det. Jamie McBride:It's for time me to retire here, but I think we should leave it the way it was. If you can't pick up your bike, then maybe you shouldn't be riding it. But yeah, so I think that, you know, we need to make some changes and make some changes fast, but you know, hopefully. I mean, used to have 10,000 officers. We're down, I think we're down to like 8,300 and we seem to be losing, even though we got academy classes going in every month, I don't think it's matching the retirees going out.
Det. Jamie McBride:Well, again, that's
Betsy Smith:a nationwide problem. Nine out of every 10 police departments are are short staffed, and the largest of the cities, LA, Chicago, New York, I could go on and on and on, are all terribly short staffed. And that's one of the things I wanted to to ask you about because, you know, you talked about, you know, you went through the LA riots. You've been through some other things. You've been through some things personally and professionally.
Betsy Smith:And and, yeah, you and I were talking off camera, and we agreed that really 2020 was the worst year for law enforcement, for American law enforcement, not just the hundreds and hundreds of violent riots, but the fact that we did start to lose personnel and we started to lose qualified people, you know, and proactive policing stopped in a lot of agencies, and just so many terrible things happened with the after the death of George Floyd, the defund the policeman, the vilification of cops. Talk about where how you see us nationwide recovering from that.
Det. Jamie McBride:Well, again, in California, I can speak for California, you know, the George Floyd. You know crap that was going on. Well, it was all false narratives. We all know that. I don't think the officer you know they're like, oh, killed them on purpose.
Det. Jamie McBride:Listen, He didn't kill him on purpose. My opinion, right? You're gonna be doing it in the public staring at people at that was his training. Know, maybe it's just poor training, poor tactics. Where do you want to call it?
Betsy Smith:But it was how he was trained. It's right in there, right?
Det. Jamie McBride:Right. But, but you know, thought that was just a political move there that people did. Unfortunately he was convicted on that. But you know, here in California, they did a lot of different changes to us professionally too. They took advantage of that.
Det. Jamie McBride:So part of it was the false narrative was that in California. So the way it works here is when you graduate from the academy, you get what's called a post certificate. Police officer standard training. I'm not sure
Betsy Smith:if Every it's like state has that same thing. They just don't have to call it post.
Det. Jamie McBride:So ours is post. Now when you get that certificate, it's good for life. It used to be good for life. So if I left, if I left LAPD, can go to another job, another job, whatever it was. During 2020, the false narratives that were going out there was, hey, we're getting police officers that were fired from here and they get hired.
Det. Jamie McBride:So all these bad apples are getting hired again and we need to change it. So what they did now was they have like nine things that you need to get decertified for now. Okay. So, but here's that whole, here's what I tell people all the time. Just because somebody gets fired from whatever agency it is, doesn't make them a bad cop.
Det. Jamie McBride:I'll give you an example. Let's just say you have an officer that has, you know, less than three years on and he gets into three car accidents within one year. Okay. And he's found out a policy on those accidents. Well, that department might look at it like, Hey, you're a liability for us for driving.
Det. Jamie McBride:So we're going to terminate your employment. Does that make them a bad cop or a shitty driver? Probably a shitty driver, right? And we have a lot of officers that get terminated from LAPD and other agencies and move to somewhere else and have a very successful career somewhere else. It just didn't work out for that agency, right?
Det. Jamie McBride:So I think they need to separate that from like just a blanket. You got fired. You're a bad cop. Are there some bad cops? Sure.
Det. Jamie McBride:But a lot of guys, it's just policy issues. That's all it is. It's policy issue. I Let
Betsy Smith:me ask you. Let me ask you this. This is the last question we have time for. Sure. A lot of and this we heard a lot about this in 2014 and then again in 2020, that police unions only exist to keep bad cops on the job.
Betsy Smith:Tell me your thoughts on that.
Det. Jamie McBride:No, so you know we're lucky here we have the Police Officers Bill of Rights and we got that in the 70s, which protects us better than most other states have for their police officers. The union, at least I can only speak for how we do it. We're here to protect the officers, their working conditions, their pay, everything else. We help them out with their any type of discipline, grievance. You name it, we handle it.
Det. Jamie McBride:So it's not to keep bad cops. We don't want the bad cops either. It makes us all look bad across the nation, right? So I it it that's that's a bunch of. That's a load of crap when they say that that's just the the false narrative that a certain particular political party always puts out.
Det. Jamie McBride:The unions there to make sure the officers are protected so they don't get picked on. They don't get retaliated against. They get better pay. They get better benefits and they're not taken advantage of, right? And that's our job is to make sure that that we protect our members.
Det. Jamie McBride:Know, I'm sure you know any union official will tell you that. We're here to protect our members. Yeah,
Betsy Smith:absolutely. And it, you know, different states have different rules. Police unions have different rules than, you know, teachers' unions and other different unions. You know, we can't go on strike. But you're absolutely right.
Betsy Smith:And there is a false narrative out there that law enforcement unions exist to keep bad cops on the job. And I'm so glad you said what everybody else believes and nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop, right?
Det. Jamie McBride:Right, right. Absolutely. Like I said, you know, do you want to tarnish, you know, your career, you know, so everybody looks at everybody the same way. You know, when things happen, I tell everybody LAPD is the most reformed police department in the nation. George Floyd happened where?
Det. Jamie McBride:Right? And we get reformed over here. It happens all the time to us, you know? But you know if we just had one policing model like because we're so reformed. Let's just say we take our our use of force policy.
Det. Jamie McBride:We take whatever and we make it stand throughout the nation. I guarantee you'll have a better policing model throughout the nation because there are some agencies that are so far behind. Like I said, $14 an hour, number one, but some of these police departments are so far behind on how they handle their investigations for like a use of force or whatever. But if we all in the same training and standard, we'd see a better model throughout the nation. Right?
Det. Jamie McBride:But it's not throwing shade on those other agencies. It's just they haven't caught up yet. They're trying their hardest.
Betsy Smith:Well, because training is expensive, you know?
Det. Jamie McBride:Right. Absolutely.
Betsy Smith:If you're if you're remember, most police departments are less than 10 officers. So if you're making $14 an hour, you're one of five cops and your county budget for the entire year is a million dollars, you're not gonna get the same training as you would at LAPD.
Det. Jamie McBride:And if we had more time, and maybe another another time, I would I would tell you about that because of the body cameras, how much that costs and my opinion on body cameras. But that's for another another day and another time.
Betsy Smith:Jamie, you you have done so much, not just for LAPD and the state of California, but you've really done a lot for cops nationwide. And where can people follow you? Where can they find you? And and keep keep up with you as you continue to move through this career and onto the next.
Det. Jamie McBride:Well, you know what? I'm I'm not on social media that much. I do have an Instagram page only because my daughter set it up for me. It's Jamie McBride official. Mostly she posts probably more about me than I post about myself.
Det. Jamie McBride:If I do an article or something like that, I'll post it out there so people see it. Otherwise you can just wait till something happens in LA. I'm sure I'll be in the media talking about it.
Betsy Smith:I love it. Jamie McBride, thank you so much for being with us today. And if you would like more information about the National Police Association, you can visit us at nationalpolice.org.
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