National Police Association Podcast with Guests, David Ur & Lana Krichevsky-Ur, Re: Lawsuit Against Former Agency

Betsy Smith:

Hi, this is Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith at the National Police Association, and this is the National Police Association podcast. I have two guests with me today that have an extraordinary story to tell, and I wish we had about five hours to tell it, and then I wish we could make a movie about it. But I wanna bring you this story because it's so important to the profession of law enforcement that we talk about are officers who have been, and this is something we talk about fairly often, officers who have been wounded, who have been stabbed, who have been shot. And one of my guests with me today is an officer who has absolutely been screwed by his agency and there's no other way to say that. And so I wanna talk about what happened to him and not only the effect on him, but the effect on his family.

Betsy Smith:

And that's why we wanted his wife here as well. So David Ur, former deputy and I love this, Doctor Lana Krichevsky, welcome to the show, you guys. You are an amazing couple. Before I even let you talk, I want people to understand that you are two of the most resilient people I have ever spoken to.

Betsy Smith:

So welcome to the show, you guys.

David Ur:

Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you for putting some time with us today.

Betsy Smith:

So you guys moved to Florida. Lana, you're in residency at the time. And David, you're a crane operator and a helicopter pilot. You're really a collecting guy and you're a chef too. We're gonna get into that later.

Betsy Smith:

But you decide that, you know what, I think I'm gonna become a cop. Now, you're like the only guy in your family that's not a cop, it sounds like, and you have a lot of police officers in your family, a lot of respect for the profession. So you become a Marion County, Florida deputy. Take it from there.

David Ur:

Yes. Yes. I did. I I when we moved to Florida, you know, in New Jersey, I couldn't afford to be a police officer. I I made far too much money as a crane operator.

David Ur:

So, when I got to Florida later in life, I'm 45 years old. I had twenty plus years as in my old profession. And I said, you know what? I my wife is becoming a doctor. We're living, my son at the time is in college.

David Ur:

And I said, you know, we're at a point in our lives where I wanna be a cop. I wanna do this. And so my wife said, alright. Well, put yourself through the academy because in Florida, you can pay for your own academy. And I said, okay, cool.

David Ur:

So I started the academy and I got picked up by sheriff's department, you know, because I did have my helicopter license. I was gonna get you know, I was going to go into the aviation unit. That was my goal, I should say. And yeah. So, they picked me up and I did the academy, paid.

David Ur:

They paid for my academy and, yeah, was fun.

Betsy Smith:

You excelled in the academy. Correct. You get out, you go into field training and and, you know, there's, you know, you have a few glitches there, but you're, you know, you're doing well, you know?

David Ur:

Yeah. No. My my first day, my my FTO trainer was about, I don't know, forty five minutes late. And he gets in the patrol car and he goes, I'm gonna teach you how to do the bare minimum.

Betsy Smith:

Yeah. Is My first day. Which is so not how it's supposed to be. That's so unfortunate to hear that. And again, because you're a guy who wants to do police work like most people just out of the academy.

David Ur:

Yeah, I mean, yeah. So I should have took his advice. I probably wouldn't be talking to you right now. You know? But it's just comical.

David Ur:

You know? But in looking back 2020 hindsight, he was a great trainer as well. They were all good. Like, I would say 99% of the people in Marion County Sheriff's Office, amazing guys and women. I mean, my my my one one sergeant sergeant Rodriguez, she was awesome.

David Ur:

She was really good, helped me through a lot. I struggled with report writing a little bit. You know, I was never the English major. I was a crane operator. Remember?

David Ur:

You know, I was like, I was I was a a construction guy. You know, I swore more than I than when I went in the academy, they asked me is the F word the only word that I used, but I'm from Jersey and from people from Jersey, that's always, that is an adjective that we use as endearment, you know, like so, there was a language barrier in the beginning, and a culture barrier from coming from up north to coming to down south.

Betsy Smith:

So you're on the job, and Doctor. K, you're furthering your education, doing your residency, you're becoming a full fledged doctor while being a cop's wife, which that's kind of double stressful, right?

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

It is.

Betsy Smith:

And so David, about six months on your own, I think you're working twelve hour shifts, right?

David Ur:

Yep, yep. We're doing the three twelves on, two twelves off, then then vice versa. Yeah. Then I was picking up I was even picking up overtime because there was so much overtime available to us. You know, my first my first run-in with the sergeant was my first day on the job.

David Ur:

I was I was actually it was just a a crazy, day, and it was I was just getting off my first day, and I arrested somebody driving home because she was smoking weed in her car with the baby in the backseat. And I was like, I already I already called out, off shift. I was driving home. You take your cars home in Florida. So I was driving home and I looked over at the light and the lady's, like, smoking a weed.

David Ur:

And I was just like, oh, man. So I had to arrest her. And that's when the change happened was that day, because the sergeant wanted me to put two commas in my PC that I couldn't figure out. And I sat there for two hours after working twelve hours. You know?

David Ur:

I was tired. I wanted to go home. So I had another sergeant approve my PC, and then I drove home and he was mad that I did that. And then he from that point on, he just went after all my reports forever. You know?

David Ur:

And then I got upset. And then I went to another sergeant and he said, look, you're gonna have to go to HR and, you know, you're gonna have to say something. So that's what I did. I, you know, I went there and I said, look, this is a hostile work environment. Guy and I talked to him first before I did that.

David Ur:

I should clarify. I did talk to him. He just wasn't letting go. And he's just needle in me, needle in me. So finally I did.

David Ur:

I went and I know that's like, nobody wants to hear that you go to HR, but it was like, I couldn't, I had no other choice.

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

And it was half of our income.

David Ur:

Yeah, it was half of our income.

Betsy Smith:

Right.

David Ur:

And I was worried for my job. So he was just nonstop. And, so HR takes the report that I file and gives to a captain. Why would they give it to a captain? They would HR should handle it.

David Ur:

Right? That's why you have an HR department. Well, he takes it and he goes, you know, I don't find anything that the sergeant is doing wrong. He goes, but I watched a couple of the, body worn cameras and you didn't activate it right. So I'm suspending you for three days.

David Ur:

So I got a three day suspension for complaining about the sergeant. So I was like, okay, I see where this is going. I'm gonna just keep my mouth shut and do my job. So I get through that whole thing with HR. I do my report writing class.

David Ur:

After my report writing class, I'm on shift and I get a call on my MBT for a suspicious vehicle. So, the vehicle on the MBT said it's been parked in somebody's driveway for four hours and they don't know who it is, and they would like them to move. So I drive out there. I pull up behind the vehicle, and I can see when I hit my headlights on it, the door's the passenger driver's side door is open, and there's a female sitting halfway in the car halfway out, you know? So I step out of the vehicle and I call her out of the vehicle and she walks back to me and we start talking and her eyes are going a 100 miles an hour.

David Ur:

She's sweating. And you hear me say on the body worn camera, you hear me say, you know, it's a cool night. Why are you sweating? And it was, it was a cool fall night. And she's like, well, I've been working on my car and I'm like, okay.

David Ur:

And she's talking a 100 miles an hour. And I'm like, do you need medical attention? Because I know there's something going on with you right now. And she's like, no, her eyes are like pinpoints. And I'm just like, yeah, I'm like, this is not gonna end well.

David Ur:

So I'm like looking at her going, yeah, I'm just not comfortable with what's going on here. So I keep talking to her, you know, doing my investigation with her. And, with that, a pickup truck pulls behind my patrol car and two off duty FWC officers get out

Betsy Smith:

of what that is, FWC.

David Ur:

So FWC is Florida wildlife, officers. So they do Florida wildlife conservation. So they do their state officers. They're like, the state police for the for the waterways, parks.

Betsy Smith:

Yeah. They had their own reality Yeah.

David Ur:

They did. Yes. Yes. And then they're great guys. So it's not unusual for off duty officers to pull off with on duty officers because we all know we're out there by ourselves, you know, and there's no backup for, you know, twenty minutes in either direction.

David Ur:

You're the only deputy out there. So a lot of times off duty officers will stop with duty officers just for extra help. And it's great. And you appreciate it when you're out there in the middle of the night, it's scary. You know, you know, I mean, you've been there and anybody that tells me they're not scared, they're lying to you because every car that I ever pulled over in the middle of the night, didn't matter what it was.

David Ur:

Your back of your hair stands up on your neck when you walk and make that approach. Right? And because we all know that that's one of the most dangerous things that we can be doing, you know, with the exception of the domestic. Right? So I'm sitting there talking to her, they're talking to her and he looks over at me and we walk away together, one of the officers and goes, you know, she's hopped up on something.

David Ur:

Right? And I'm like, yeah, I could tell as soon as I started talking to her, but I says, I really don't have any PC or anything right now. She's not letting me in her car. He's like, yeah, I understand. I says, but I do have my canine officer.

David Ur:

He's just got out of school. And he goes, who has he taken the leadership school? And I was like, yeah, goes, we were just in the class with him. And he goes, I said, well, that's my zone partner. I says, let me call him and see if he's coming out and he can come bring his canine to walk the car.

David Ur:

So in the interim, the car is dead. It's not going anywhere. It's not a traffic stop. So we're not like on the time, you know, like we're not on the clock, you know, when you pull somebody over. So we're there.

David Ur:

I call a wrecker for her. We're doing the investigation. We're all talking to her. I'm waiting for my canine unit to show up. And the off duty officer walks by me and says, hey, there's a needle on the ground behind the vehicle.

David Ur:

And I'm like, oh, okay. So I walk over and there it is. There's a clear needle with an orange cap on it. We could all say that that's a intravenous tool. Right.

David Ur:

And we're out in the country. So why would there be a needle out in the country, you know, laying on the ground and somebody's private driveway. And I looked at the vehicle and it's on a downward slope. And I'm like, well, if she would have drove in, it's in the tire, the path of the tire, she would have drove over that needle. So I detain her.

David Ur:

I pat her down. She's like, oh no, no. I'm like, look, there's a needle on the ground right there. That's why I'm I'm detaining you. And we're gonna continue this investigation.

David Ur:

So I detain her. And long and behold, I pull a needle out of her left pocket. Or if you're standing in front of her, it would be her right pocket. So I test the needle, it comes back, it's loaded with drugs. I place her under arrest.

David Ur:

I put her in the patrol car. I asked her a couple of times, you got anything else on you? She says, no. Okay. The FWC officers ask her, did you get anything on you?

David Ur:

No. My canine officer asked her, do you have anything on you? No. So, okay. I bring her to the jail.

David Ur:

As I'm getting her out of the car, there's a glass pipe on the back seat of my vehicle covered in human feces. It's all on bodywork camera. She pulled it out of out of somewhere. Right? So I'm like, where did that come from?

David Ur:

She's like, that was on the backseat when I got in the car. I'm like, well, it's got your DNA on it. So that's a lie. So we're just gonna leave that there for now. She's like, oh, I got more drugs on me.

David Ur:

I'm like, where are they at? She's like, they're in their back pocket. I'm like, no. I I searched your back pocket. When we go inside the jail, tell the female deputy where they're at on you.

David Ur:

Because I can't go any further than the pat down I've already given you. So I end up, taking her into the jail. I tell the female deputy, the female deputy says, okay, hon, where's the drugs at? She goes right to the female deputy. I don't have any drugs on me.

David Ur:

So we both looked at each other. We're like, really? Okay. So we bring her into the jail. Goes to the scanner and it's right there, clear as day under her breast.

David Ur:

There's something underneath there. They bring her in, they strip search her. They find a few more exact needles to the needle I found on the ground and in her pocket, a bag of cocaine and a glass smoking pipe.

Betsy Smith:

So now you have excellent felony charges.

David Ur:

Absolutely. Fight up. Right? So now the next morning I get a phone call from one of the sergeants, day sergeants, and he goes, hey, man, you you arrested a Ridgeway. And I said, a what way?

David Ur:

A Ridgeway. And I was like, I guess. Yeah. I yeah. I said, I I I at that night, I had two arrests.

David Ur:

So I wasn't sure what arrest she was talking about. I had a Martin and a Ridgeway. And she he's like, well, man, it's gonna get a little political for you. He goes, good luck, man. And he hangs up the phone on me.

David Ur:

I was like, what? So I called my lieutenant. My lieutenant goes, come down and see me. So I go down to the to the annex, and I go lieutenant. I mean, my first arrest was real rough.

David Ur:

She was crazy. And the second arrest, pretty simple. It was a Martin. He he watched the video. He's like, you didn't do anything wrong.

David Ur:

Don't worry about it. He's like, some people just say things out of contents. I was like, oh, okay. Well, like a week later, I'm in roll call and my sergeant says, hey Er, after roll call come with me, I gotta talk to you. So I go to his office and he goes, hey, look, I I'm putting you in an IA and you gotta turn your badge and your gun in.

Betsy Smith:

Explain what an IA is.

David Ur:

So internal investigation. So internal investigation in Florida, they have you they sit you down. They tell you what your charge is, and then they put you on two types of suspension, paid suspension with, you know, leave paid leave or just suspension, and they don't take your gun and badge. When they take your gun and badge, it's really bad. Like that's when you know, like something bad.

David Ur:

So I looked at him, what I do Sarge? He goes, well, captain Palford is saying you didn't have probable cause to arrest. And I was like, what? My charges, I didn't have probable cause to arrest. He's like, yeah.

David Ur:

I'm like, isn't that strange? And he looked at me goes, yeah, but I didn't. He goes, this is his charge. The captain saying, take your gun and badge. I'm doing my job.

David Ur:

You know, we'll go through the investigation. If you had probable cause to arrest, we'll give you back your badge and gun and you're on paid leave. So he's like, it's like a paid vacation. So I was like, okay. So I hand my badge and gun.

David Ur:

I go home and I'm pretty depressed at that point. I'm like, they just took my badge and gun. You know?

Betsy Smith:

Yeah. Which is I've gotta say the emotional component of that, them taking away your badge and your gun for a law enforcement officer is extraordinarily difficult.

David Ur:

Yeah. No. It was devastating because here I am six months in the academy, six months on the road. I'm busting my ass. I'm 45 years old.

David Ur:

I just married the woman that of my dreams. And I'm thinking my life is going in the right direction. And now I have to call my wife who's working nights up in Gainesville. Hey, they just took my badge and gun from

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

me. Like,

David Ur:

I was devastated. Crushed me. I was like, wow, man, this is crazy. So I have the police association or not police association, the sheriff's association is what I belong to. I didn't join the FOP because I was told in the beginning of my career, don't join the union because if you join the union, they won't promote you.

David Ur:

They won't do anything for you in the sheriff's office. Like they went out of their way to mess with guys that were in the union. So I was like, well, I'm 45 years old. Well, I'm okay. I'll just do the sheriff's association and see where it goes in my life.

David Ur:

Like, I didn't understand the importance. And I tell everybody, my son just became a police officer in Delaware. I said, you join that union right now. Like you don't do anything else, but join that union because somebody will have your back there. The sheriff's association, what I just found out was it's a good association.

David Ur:

They do great things, but they ensure the sheriff's support. They ensure the sheriff's offices. So their hands are in the pie there. So when they said to me, needed representation. They sent me a lawyer.

David Ur:

The lawyer says, yes, I can represent you during your IA. But if it goes criminal, you're gonna have to get your own lawyer. And I was like, well, why would it go criminal? I'm like, they said I didn't have probable cause to arrest, but I did. So the attorney says, okay, we'll go to the IA.

David Ur:

So I was like taken by it at first that this guy is already talking to me about criminal charges. Something didn't go right. Like, you know, like that spidey sense you're like, sure. That line of questioning the way he was talking to me, like he knew something was up. So we go to the first meeting and the Sergeant's like, looking, I'm, gonna continue my investigation and I'm not ready to continue to talk to you yet.

David Ur:

So I was like, all right, I don't like the way this is going. So I went and hired an attorney. So then, when I hired the attorney, Jimmy Sparrow was his name, great attorney. He says to me, Dave, he goes, what's the charge? I says, well, they're saying that I didn't have probable cause.

David Ur:

And at that point, there was some scuttlebuttle between me and the sergeant that he had talked to me about that some of my statements in my report didn't match my body worn camera. I'm like, okay. Well, when does that happen? Like, what am I what am I computer? Like, I'm not a computer and I don't watch my body worn camera before I write my report.

David Ur:

So, okay, is it out of order? Yeah. So what that happens? I'm thinking to myself, what the could thing? So the sergeant comes back to my attorney and says, when you come in, I'm gonna read him his rights.

David Ur:

And my attorney is like, what? His Miranda rights? He's like, yeah. He goes, okay. I'll be right back in touch with you.

David Ur:

He hangs up the phone and he looks at me and goes, you're gonna resign. He goes, they're gonna charge you criminally. And I'm like, for what? I'm like, Timmy, you watch the body worn camera. He's like, yeah, I don't know.

David Ur:

He goes, I don't know what they're gonna charge you with, but I gotta figure this out. But you can't go to the meeting because even though you're under qualified immunity at that point and anything you say during that meeting is immune. Alright. Maybe I'm not saying that word right. It's not immune.

David Ur:

What what am I looking for? It's like they can't use it against you

Betsy Smith:

in court. Right, right. It's basically protected.

David Ur:

Yeah, it's protected. But he said, if they ask you the same question later on in life and you don't answer it exactly the way you said it in the meeting, then they can charge you with perjury. He goes, so you can't he gives you he goes, I'm recommending he goes, you're you hired me. I'm recommending you not to go to the meeting and resign and let them figure this out. He goes, I'll call the state and figure out what they're doing.

David Ur:

So he calls the state attorney's office and the state attorney's office is like, yeah, the sheriff's office brought this to us and we're charging him with false statements. So Jimmy's like, what? He's like he goes, can I have the statements that are false? And she sends it over to him in an email. He looks at it, watches the video camera and goes, everything they're saying is false.

David Ur:

I'm watching right here on the camera. He writes the times down, and then he calls the state attorney's office and says, let's have a meeting. He goes for a meeting and he says, no. He wrote that in the report here and at time say 01:05, he says it right there. So what's the falseness here?

David Ur:

She says it's out of order. He's like, what? She's like, well, he took it out of his right her right pocket, and he wrote it was in his left pocket. He's like, well, if you're standing behind the the he was standing behind her and he reached him with his left hand and took it out of his her left pocket, in his mind, it's just her left pocket. Right.

David Ur:

That's what they charged me with. And so my attorneys, I had to go do a perp walk. I had to go turn myself into the jail for misdemeanors. So I go there. I know everybody at the jail.

David Ur:

I was in and out in fifteen minutes. Matter of fact, they had a slice of pizza there for me. Honestly, did, which was actually kind of funny. And, you know, my attorney drove me to the jail. That's how concerned my attorney was.

David Ur:

He's a really good guy. And at the end of the day, I'm like, this is stupid. Jimmy's like, yeah. So the the state attorney comes back to Jimmy and goes, if he takes a deal, I'll, you know, take probation, gives up his license, pays like $2,000 in fines. And all of this is happening to me.

David Ur:

They drop all the charges against the girl that I arrest.

Betsy Smith:

Doctor. Kay, I wanna know what's going on in your head during all of this. You go from being married to a cop to now he's basically fighting for his professional life and he's fighting for his reputation. And I can imagine things are pretty stressful at home and you as a physician don't exactly have the least stressful job in the world either. So, because I wanna talk for a minute about how it affected you as well.

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

Well, was devastating. For me honestly, it it it was it was so hard to watch my husband get put through this unjustly, really unjustly. And, you know, it's it's one thing when you're, you know, being married to a cop, you you don't realize that, you know, every time he leaves the house, you don't know if he's gonna come back to you or not. You know? And so you're you're living with that.

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

And then you come home and you you see what he looks like when you take his badge and gun away. And you can't even put it in words. It's it's it's so hurtful. And at the same time, you know, when all of this is happening and he gets booked through the jail and the newspapers start going all over the place, the deputies lying and all of this stuff. And and then our attorney tells us, you know what?

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

It's probably best that you guys leave the county. So, you know, half of our income is gone. I'm working as a medical resident and they start you off at like 50 ks a year. We have to pack up our home and move. We can't afford the movers.

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

We had to figure out how to make ends meet. So we buy this old food truck, 1985

David Ur:

Ford I got a chef. You ever see the movie Chef? It was that. It was that truck.

Betsy Smith:

Love it.

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

It was an old run down truck that was converted into a food truck. And Dave started cooking because with the charges hanging over him, he can't find a job.

David Ur:

Couldn't get a job. I couldn't even Uber.

Betsy Smith:

No. So while you're dealing with all this, and I'm just gonna say it, corruption, alleged corruption, it seems like a lot of people were doing kindnesses to you despite all of this and I love to hear that you know fellow cops, nurses you know and of course cops and nurses you know word like this and you know so so here you are you know just at such a low point and yet you continue to experience some kindnesses. So while you're doing all this, how is it, David, are you guys trying to resolve this whole insane situation that, again, it sounds like a Netflix series?

David Ur:

Yeah. Well, we just kept we just kept the the state attorney's office just keep like, every time we would get to the point where we wanted to get to court, we did. We absolutely wanted to go to trial. The state attorney would come up with another reason why she couldn't do it or another witness that we'd had to do another deposition. And it took four years for that original captain, who's now a major, Palford is his last name, to get into deposition.

David Ur:

When he did do his final deposition, he did such a bad job during his deposition. And it was clear as day. Like, my attorney just ate him up in the deposition. And it was clear that he was going out of his way to hurt me. The state attorney at that point read the tea leaves and is like, I don't have a case after four years.

David Ur:

So, the state attorney came back and said, look, you just voluntarily turn your license in and we just know process everything and we go our separate ways. That's $200,000 in my reputation later. And your career. And my career and my sobriety. I mean, I was sober for many years prior to that.

David Ur:

Now look, that's on me. I take full responsibility for going back to drinking, but the stress of what I was going through, I'm not gonna say it was the right thing, but at the time it was the right thing for me. And I did, I went back to drinking. I'm sober back being sober. Thank God.

David Ur:

It's been a hell of a journey. I mean, it's been hard.

Betsy Smith:

I mean, So where are we at, right now Okay. With this

David Ur:

so we are in a federal lawsuit with the sheriff, the captain, and the sergeant. We're we're suing them with Marie Maddox out of Tallahassee. We did file in the federal court, and hopefully we'll get some, you know, some some relief. And you are not

Betsy Smith:

the only people suing this year.

David Ur:

No. No. We are not. And there's others lawsuits that are coming, the dropping behind me right now for the same thing that they did to me, they did to other officers, but I was the first to come out. Other officers were like, wow.

David Ur:

I need to say something. You know, see something, say something. Well, they're finally doing it. So now I have three people coming out now, and their lawsuits are gonna drop soon. And I'm really happy to hear what they're doing.

David Ur:

And, I'm proud of them. When they listen to this, hopefully they'll be able to do a podcast with you as well and hear their story because their stories are are horrendous too, what they put those those those deputies through. And, and it's the same characters in the sheriff's department that are doing it. And they've been doing it for years and getting away with it.

Betsy Smith:

You sort of gave up your law enforcement license in the state of Florida, but one of the things that you're working toward is getting it back. And so that's what you guys have to do is clear your name. And it doesn't just affect you, David, of course, it affects your wife. Everybody knows physicians, right? And they're a part of our neighborhood and they're a part of you know, the fabric of our life.

Betsy Smith:

And so now you're doing a couple of things. First of all, have this pizza food truck that next time I come to Florida, I'm gonna come try it and I'm gonna judge it because I'm from Chicago. Because pizza is my favorite food. But you're getting on with your life while continuing to try and clear your name. You also have gotten, you have a service dog Zeus who is working on any service dog slash a protection dog.

Betsy Smith:

You're also involved with an organization in addition to this story coming out via the National Police Association. You've been on every law enforcement related podcast that you can get on and you were on with Lieutenant Randy Sutton, a friend of mine, and on his podcast and you're going to be coming to both of you to the Wounded Blue Survival Summit because that's one of the missions of the Wounded Blue is to get police officers who have been damaged or wounded or screwed over or not taken care of properly by their agencies and and so you're going to come to Las Vegas September to the Law Enforcement Survival Summit where we get to meet in person and I get to

David Ur:

yes absolutely

Betsy Smith:

and and you're going to talk about your story there and I'll tell you I just we're so fortunate that we can help you guys get the word out because you know as the National Police Association we you know we don't like to take on law enforcement agencies unless we know they're doing bad things. And there's just no other way to say it, you got treated badly, right? Really bad.

David Ur:

And it's not even like like like I was saying before we when we before we first started taping was, look. If it was just me, I would say, okay. Maybe it's Dave. But now we have multiple deputies, not just one, two, three, four people coming forward. I have a list of witnesses that wanna come forward against this agency, against these guys.

David Ur:

Like, they don't understand the storm that it's coming to them. Like, it's coming. Like, the storm, it it's taken four years. I'm a Jew. Okay?

David Ur:

We don't give up. Alright? If they haven't figured that out, guys, I'm not Iraqi in. I'm not Iranian, I'm a Jew and I don't give up. And they don't, if they don't see that storm coming, it's coming and it's coming for them.

Betsy Smith:

David, tell people, where they can find, where can they find your food truck to test that pizza out and let me know.

David Ur:

So we have an excellent location in Flagler Beach right across the street from the Funky Punk Funky Pelican, which everybody knows is right there by the pier. We're there on Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, or on Sunday, we're at the Coquino Coast Brewery

Betsy Smith:

Right.

David Ur:

Right in Flagler Beach as well. And the cool thing about our pizzas, every pizza we sell, a dollar goes to the wounded blue. So we're trying to raise $10,000 this year for the wounded blue because we really need to give back to our officers. It's it's so important. And I hope people hear this.

David Ur:

And I hope if you're going through this, reach out to the wounded blue, reach out to Betty

Betsy Smith:

say association.

David Ur:

Yes. I need help. They're there. They will listen. It might take a few emails.

David Ur:

It might take a few times, but if you stay persistent like my wife did, you will get the help that you're looking for.

Betsy Smith:

Yeah. Absolutely. Tell you Don't guys

David Ur:

reach out to me. Yeah. Go to Rustic Dough Works, send me a message. And I know everybody now, if I have the ability and I have good attorneys, I will help you.

Lana Krichevsky-Ur:

On Facebook, it's Rustic Dough Works and email is rustic dough worksgmail dot com.

Betsy Smith:

Perfect, perfect.

David Ur:

Right, you can send me a private message or send me an email if you need help. You're not alone, you're not alone. I've been through it. I can give you some good advice. I got good lawyers.

David Ur:

I'd like, if you're in it, I can definitely help you. And I will help you.

Betsy Smith:

But you guys, I can't thank you enough for spending time with us today and telling us your story. And I look forward to doing another episode with you where we get to explain how everything was resolved. So we will see you guys in September. And if you'd like more information about the National Police Association, you can visit us at nationalpolice.org.

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National Police Association Podcast with Guests, David Ur & Lana Krichevsky-Ur, Re: Lawsuit Against Former Agency
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