National Police Association Podcast

Betsy Smith: 00:08

Hi, this is Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith with the National Police Association, and this is the National Police Association podcast. I have a fantastic guest with me today. I'm already gonna tell you, I don't have enough time with this guy. I'm gonna have to get him back already. But he, of course, he was in law enforcement, but his background and his experience and his services nation is just extraordinary.

Betsy Smith: 00:36

So I knew you had to meet him. Rich Staropoli, welcome to the show.

Rich Staropoli: 00:41

Thank you, Betsy. You certainly appreciate the kind words.

Betsy Smith: 00:44

So we were on another podcast together, and you do a lot of media like I do. But I'm gonna start by asking you what I ask every single cop I have on. Why'd you become a cop?

Rich Staropoli: 00:59

Well, I'll tell you, Betsy, I did not have the typical career track of becoming cop. Right? I grew up in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. My father was an Italian immigrant who was a barber. Right?

Rich Staropoli: 01:08

His education, formal education, as far as the seventh grade. And that was common throughout all parents, you know, in the neighborhood. Most of the guys that I grew up with became cops, firemen, sanitation workers, so on and so forth, but the big thing about my dad was, hey, I want you to go to college. So I went to college, I went to NYU Tandon School of Engineering. I have two degrees in mechanical and aerospace engineering.

Rich Staropoli: 01:33

And while I was there, and you may realize this, but NYU is the most expensive college in The United States right now. And while I was there, at the end of my freshman year, unbeknownst to all of us that were enrolled there, NYU sends out the proverbial letter in the mail and doubles the price of tuition, which creates a huge problem when dad is a barber giving hair cuts for $4 at a clip and minimum wage is $3.35 an hour. So I needed more than that and I needed that pretty quickly, and back in those days, back in the mid-80s, the CIA would recruit on college campuses, Not the Q1 Institute of America, but the Central Intelligence Agency, the real three letter agency. So I landed there for short amount of time in the science and technology division, doing things that ultimately would have had to do with my educational background in engineering. It was exciting, but not the level of excitement that I was looking for, because like I said, I had friends that were cops, emergency services cops, SWAT operators, US Marshals, so on and so forth.

Rich Staropoli: 02:35

So I wanted something a little bit more, And somebody suggested me one take a look at federal and you know federal law enforcement FBI of the Secret Service. So I applied to the Secret Service after about a year's worth of applications interviews and a really intense background investigation. I landed a position as a Secret Service agent assigned to the New York field office, which is still the busiest office the Secret Service has, surrounded by just an unbelievable group of real warriors. You know, back then the Secret Service only had about a thousand agents. Less than 10% women- and 90% of these guys had come out of the military I had never been in the military.

Rich Staropoli: 03:16

I got a real good schooling under their tutelage- really quickly I wasn't married at the time, I was 22 years old, so I volunteered for every assignment that came up and I was all over the world real quickly and I just got to do some unbelievable things that probably somebody that's, you know, not even 25 years old yet should be doing and loved every minute of.

Betsy Smith: 03:41

I know, don't you? I think about that. I was a 21 year old farm girl two weeks out of college when they gave me a badge and a gun. And I always think about that. But you're right, when you're that young and you're that excited about the job and you volunteer for things, I mean, you get to do a lot of cool stuff.

Betsy Smith: 04:03

That's why I wish more kids, and this is something, of course, we're all working on, wish more kids were interested in the profession today because you never have the same day twice, right?

Rich Staropoli: 04:13

No matter what agency or department you go to, anywhere in the world for that matter, Being a first responder frontline law enforcement particular you really do have an e ticket the greatest show on earth and usually you're right in the middle of this and these are things you know people ask me all the time once you put pencil to paper and put a book together. You know I don't think I could do just some of the things I've seen and heard it's just unbelievable you talk about getting a gun in a badge my first day there when I walked into the office which is very corporate everybody's in their suits and ties you know unless you got twenty five years on and you can wear whatever you want. The agent in charge handed me a letter that said you're now a Secret Service agent, handed me a pair of handcuffs and a gun. I got a Ruger three fifty seven Magnum that looked like somebody was beat to death with it in 1950. And it was, know, kind of rusting, the bluing was gone, and I'm like, okay.

Rich Staropoli: 05:04

What do I do with this? This is before I even went to any training. He goes, we'll get you we'll get you trained up, kid. Don't worry about it. This is back when guys are still wearing fedoras and Ray Bans, which is how you could tell the old guys.

Rich Staropoli: 05:14

Right? I still wear my Ray Ban Wayfarers. The new guys wear those fancy Oakleys. Right? Just not for me.

Betsy Smith: 05:21

Now a lot of people don't realize the level of tactical training that the Secret Service goes through. You know? All I mean, there's you know, How many federal agencies are there? Police agencies, 80 some, right? But not everybody goes to the same level of training.

Betsy Smith: 05:40

Talk about that for a minute, just the level of scenario based training, tactical training that the Secret Service goes through and and always had even before that was something we were doing nationwide in law enforcement.

Rich Staropoli: 05:53

Yeah. I'll tell you what, the Secret Service doesn't screw around when it comes to marksmanship, your shooting capabilities, and your tactical training. Right? Even though the Secret Service was formed for the purposes of you know investigating these counterfeiting rings that had permeated you know the union and confederacy during the civil war. Eventually the Secret Service picks up presidential protection as we know it today following the assassinations of three sitting US presidents, with the final one in 1901 and of course the Kennedy assassination in 'sixty three.

Rich Staropoli: 06:24

It's that responsibility, the protective responsibility that forces the Secret Service to make sure that scenario based training all the exercises that you go through before you get assigned permanently to a field office is just hammered home into your head. And with such a small agency like I said when I started there only about a thousand people. They keep a really close eye on what you're doing there was no hiding in the secret services certainly when you're at the range and you're shooting a training matter of fact when you go to the range- it may be a 12 range. Each agents got at least two firearms instructors on top of you. So if you're doing anything wrong, they're they're going to correct that.

Rich Staropoli: 07:02

So by the time you're done shooting and learning all the scenarios and what your responsibilities are, you know, protective responsibilities, you're good to go. They're they've signed off or real quickly people will know that you're not that good to go and maybe you should seek employment elsewhere right your reputation is everything in such a small agency- I also had the ability when I was eventually reassigned after about a dozen years the presidential protective division- I became a counter assault team operator. All of those guys are trained by former military special operations forces right. We spend a lot of time at places like Fort Bragg lot of times at Fort Meade matter of fact the obstacle course that you run during that training is the first one I've ever seen that has a turn in it. So after you finish your your miles worth of obstacles, you think you're done, you're not done because look to your left, there's a whole other obstacle course now you've got to get through.

Rich Staropoli: 07:55

So you never knew what they were going to throw at you. It's gotten a little bit watered down now over the years with what they're willing to let slide because the agency, as many agencies have, have expanded so much, maybe there's more of an emphasis on optics and some of the woke philosophies have infiltrated some of these agencies and organizations, which is taken away from the level of requirement that you needed to meet to successfully complete training. But it's still, you know, training is still of paramount importance to the Secret Service.

Betsy Smith: 08:30

Well, all of America has witnessed what DEI policies have done to the Secret Service. I mean, you know, there's just no getting around that. Woke doesn't work in law enforcement, especially not in the Secret Service. When you got assigned to the presidential detail, who was the president? Clinton.

Betsy Smith: 08:54

Okay. So, what is that like to literally walk in there and know that you're about to spend your days now and nights witnessing history?

Rich Staropoli: 09:08

Yeah. It's it's it's pretty intense. You know, when you when you get reassigned to Washington, they give you what's known as the White House pass. It's got your picture on it. It doesn't say secret service, but it's got a a little a color coded indicator that you're armed and you're with the secret service.

Rich Staropoli: 09:23

That passes the keys to the entire White House. There isn't a place you can't go. As a matter of fact, there's a new somebody that's newly reassigned to the president's detail. You're encouraged to wander the White House. So I've been through the entire White House, the tunnel system, the Oval Office, you name it, you know, because you need to have that familiarity in the event something happens.

Rich Staropoli: 09:42

But skip ahead to 02/2001, it's that familiarity that the guys that were assigned to the president's detail relied upon because if you recall, Vice President Cheney happened to be in his office across the street at the old Executive Office Building, and the guys assigned to the Vice President's detail didn't have that routine familiarity with the White House Complex. And fortunately, there were a number of agents on the White House Complex from the President's detail, even though President Bush happened to be in in Florida at the time. It's a pretty overwhelming experience. I never took it for granted. Every day I walked in there, know, get some early mornings and some real late nights, but you never take for granted, you know, where you are and the gravity of what went on in that building, you know, over the course of the last, you know, two fifty years now.

Rich Staropoli: 10:32

It was just an incredible place to work.

Betsy Smith: 10:36

One of the things I've always marveled at is the integrity of Secret Service agents. Long after they leave the agency, they don't tell tales out of school for the most part. And what is it that they do to you guys or tell you guys, or what do you have to swear that to your grave, there are secrets that you will take?

Rich Staropoli: 11:04

You know, the model of the Secret Service is worthy of trust and confidence. Yeah, I don't think about that too often. I certainly wasn't really thinking about it, you know, as a new agent, but that's something that's just ingrained in your mind and you don't even think about it, but you've got to live up to that that expectation. Right I don't write books we as a whole the Secret Service doesn't write books. I think we were put to the test during the you know the early point years when you had that whole Monica Lewinsky in incident.

Rich Staropoli: 11:32

Where guys that were working the shift and I was one of them. You know we were told you're going to appear before Congress and you're to testify about everything you heard and you saw. Not going to do it you know that's not what we do. If you want me to testify you're going to you're to send me to jail. And that's what it came down to it in the end only one guy was forced to testify that was the agent charge.

Rich Staropoli: 11:52

And he said yeah I was working I was there I have nothing to add. And that was it so. We as a whole take that seriously I certainly take it very seriously you know there are things that you see in here think about if I showed up in your home and stayed with you for twenty four hours a day seven days a week. I don't talk about any arguments or any discussions you have with any family members. But any comments that you make what you're watching on TV That's not what I'm there to do.

Rich Staropoli: 12:17

And that was the standard that I tried to live up to. And I always thought, you know, down the road, hey, if I say anything about what I've heard, how can anyone ever trust me again? Right? Because once you do that, once you let the cat out the bag, you give the public insight to what you're seeing and hearing, mean, short of something really illegal, your integrity has been so compromised, there's no coming back from that.

Betsy Smith: 12:41

Now, mean, different

Rich Staropoli: 12:43

from what we've seen the last four years, right? Right. That's a whole other, you know, historic time, but yeah, that's a whole topic for a whole, you know, three hour show if you wanna do that.

Betsy Smith: 12:55

That'll be our second show we do together. Speaking of historic times, you and I were both on the job on nineelevenone, I know you and I and all our peers, we remember exactly where we were, what we were doing, all that. America seems to really have forgotten about that. But talk about your life after nineelevenone with the Secret Service.

Rich Staropoli: 13:28

Well, it's interesting about you hit it right on the head. For something so recent and so cataclysmic, right, it affected not just the The United States, certainly not just New York or or Shanksville, PA, right, or or the Pentagon. This is international implications that we still deal with today which is why we're you know we're blowing up the nuclear facilities in Iran right. Twenty five years later unfortunately this isn't taught in school nobody talks about this but whenever I have friends of mine particularly law enforcement they come to New York or New Jersey where I am now. I always throw them in a car and go let's take a ride and take them through through Brooklyn where I grew up.

Rich Staropoli: 14:04

Every other street in Brooklyn is renamed for somebody that was killed in the World Trade Center. Maybe not on September 11 but people are still dying from the repercussions of stuff that was blown through the air that they breathe in over the course of you know a decade's worth of recovery. And people don't realize that it's crazy that this thing is not brought about in schools- and isn't heralded much more often. Then you see you know once a year on the morning of September 11. But on September I.

Rich Staropoli: 14:37

If you recall, the September is when the United Nations meets in New York. I was assigned to the president's detail, that was the I happened to stop at the White House to get some last minute instructions, and I couldn't find a place to park. So One of the uniform division guys said hey the president's in Florida want to just park. Inside the White House grounds the first and only time I'm allowed access to park in the White House grounds was on September 11. And my card is little red Ford focus ended up being the only part thankfully people knew that that was my car that the bomb squad didn't tow out of there and you know blow up because they couldn't figure out whose car it was.

Rich Staropoli: 15:13

But that that was my introduction to the events September 11 when somebody came up to me and said, hey, I know you're going to New York. Are you aware of what's going on? I had no idea what's going on. And then, you know, I was with the counter assault team at the time. So here I am on the White House grounds dressed all in black.

Rich Staropoli: 15:29

I've got my you know my M. Four in my bag. I've got a three fifty seven magnum in a drop holster. You didn't see cops dressed like that. You know prior September 11.

Rich Staropoli: 15:40

Now I've got another problem. Nobody knows who the hell I am I'm supposed to be in New York. I'm standing outside the White House gates with this automatic weapon because we don't know what's coming at us or what's going on. And the only instruction I've got is stand by you know we've got to get a helicopter to you and grab the first five cat guys counter assault guys you can we're going to fly you to wherever the president. So that's what we did for the next two days we were just waiting to see where we were going to go to go meet the president and eventually he came back to the White House and then we ended up in the the undisclosed locations for the next couple of days.

Rich Staropoli: 16:13

And that's how the day unfolded for me, for the next few days.

Betsy Smith: 16:18

And then, you know, fast forward to now, five years later, you know, because back then, one of the things I keep saying now is we all need to have a nine-twelve-one mindset, right, when it comes to terrorism and foreign entities and things. Fast forward twenty five years from that day and what you experienced, what are your thoughts now? You think, we've had the FBI director for the last couple of years testifying that terror attacks are imminent. We've got unknown number of people who hate this country, have been allowed to come here. Some we know, some we don't.

Betsy Smith: 17:05

What do you think? Because it seems so mind boggling and almost insurmountable to me in how we address this.

Rich Staropoli: 17:13

Well, you know what's interesting is we we've got a lot of people who just hate this country that managed to get in here, but we've got a lot of people that hate this country that managed to get elected to some pretty senior positions in the U. S. Government to include, know, this last administration, the Biden crime family, as I like to refer to them. We have never been, I think, in a better posture or more poised for a repeat of what occurred on September 11 and in the events leading up to September 11 than ever before. Right and so for for for law enforcement that's out there hey when somebody walks up to you and says you hate there's a back pack sitting on the curb you can't just walk up to it and kick it out probably nothing it might be close you've got to take that with the level of seriousness that everyone was taking things on September 12.

Rich Staropoli: 18:05

Right we are positioned right now where first of all the world hates the guy that we've got running the show right now president trump right they don't like the fact that we've got Pete Hegseth running around the department of defense and I could go on and on about Christy Noem and

Betsy Smith: 18:20

so Janesh Patel.

Rich Staropoli: 18:22

Yeah. Danny Bongino, all the rest of them. Right? All of these people are pretty high on the priority list targets. But if they can't get to those people, the collateral damage that will ensue when something happens to the to the civilian populace will rival what you saw on September 11.

Rich Staropoli: 18:41

This was not just a New York incident, a Shanksville PA incident or DC incident. It's got nationwide, if not international, ranging effects. There are so many prime targets out there that you know even start to consider what would be hit first is impossible. But the situation that's presented itself right now because we've got 25,000,000 illegal aliens that are in here that will do anything to keep from getting deported. We've got Iranian terror cells that have been running around The United States, by the way, since 1979.

Rich Staropoli: 19:13

People forget that. Those guys walked into an a US embassy and took 50 of our guys hostage and wouldn't give them back for two years and only gave them back because of peace through strength. Because a guy named Ronald Reagan had just been elected president and told the Iranians if you don't release those American hostages, I'm going to bomb you back into the Stone Age. And they knew he meant it, which is the same situation we've got with President Donald J. Trump.

Rich Staropoli: 19:38

But the the short answer to your question is, listen, we are setting ourselves up, we have set ourselves up for things to happen again and unfold that will make the events of September 11 pale in comparison to what you saw.

Betsy Smith: 19:54

You know, we tell people, if you see something, say something, all of that. And, one of the many issues with that is American law enforcement, state, local, and even federal, are so short staffed right now, especially you know, our big blue cities, big blue counties. I mean, you know, look at, you know, LA, Chicago, you know, thousands of officers short short. That's a crisis, right?

Rich Staropoli: 20:26

That is a huge crisis. We're seeing that, you know, all over the country. I think New York is down about 8,000 cops. So part of the problem with that is if you just want to get numbers up, we'll go ahead and have a job fair and just start hiring people. They end up with people that just can't do the job right law enforcement- firefighting- emergency medical that's not the job for everyone you could look fantastic on paper.

Rich Staropoli: 20:50

But this is not the job for you, For everyone that's out there, you can't just have cookie cutter approach to hiring people just to get those numbers up. You know, and that's a huge problem that these municipalities have to deal with.

Betsy Smith: 21:03

And you also can't hire people because of their sex or their color of their skin or their sexual orientation or any of that. We've got to go back to hiring people because they are qualified, because they are able, and because they have a passion for this job. Right?

Rich Staropoli: 21:21

You really do need to have a passion for this job. You know? And and I say this not just for law enforcement, for all first responders. Right? There's gotta be something that motivates you and drives you to want to insert yourself into someone else's problems or insert yourself into a situation where most people just going to walk by or swarm the situation so they can video it with their iPhones.

Rich Staropoli: 21:42

Right there's always someone that steps up and says Hey I got this that's the person that we want. As a first responder certainly is the person we want for law enforcement. You know one thing I used to say is that when I was at the Secret Service I had about a dozen years on before I was accepted to go to counter assault school. That much time on you know I kind of thought maybe there'd be a little bit of respect for the fact that I had spent a dozen years in New York. They don't care who you are.

Rich Staropoli: 22:07

You start as if you were some 17 year old, you know, recruit that's never done a damn thing. And there's a mechanism. There's a reason to doing that. If you can't meet the standards to become a counter assault guy, that's it. There's no embarrassment.

Rich Staropoli: 22:23

That's just a fact. They're not gonna lower the level of standard to suit you because of who you think you are or what you've done. You've got to raise yourself to the bar to meet those standards because there's people that are going to depend on you when things go bad really quickly. And law enforcement needs to get back to that mentality just to hire people because we need to have optics we need to fill a D. E.

Rich Staropoli: 22:47

I. Role I know I hear a lot about this you know 30 for 30 we need 30% of women. Listen why aren't people like yourself going out recruiting people right people that have proven they've got a track record they can do the job they've got them the right mentality right to do this that's why I want recruiting people I used to say to guys that work for me hey we hired you. Before we allow you to actually become a Secret Service agent, you're going to bring me two or three other people that I can hire as well. Because my feeling was, if this guy's head is in the game, he can bring me people who will meet that standard because no one wants to surround themselves.

Rich Staropoli: 23:21

No one wants to be embarrassed by recommending someone that can't do the job. But unfortunately, the Secret Service, because it still is a pretty small agency, although it's tripled in size since I've been there, has a history of in-depth nepotism. It's it's it's become more of, hey, how did you get this job? Whose mom or dad? You know, were you?

Rich Staropoli: 23:41

Who recommended you? That needs to go back to where it was when I started. That was one of the first questions you were asked. Who are you? How'd you find out about this job?

Rich Staropoli: 23:50

Because that gives me a lot of insight into where your head's at should you make it through the process and eventually get hired. That's a long winded answer to your question.

Betsy Smith: 24:00

That that's exactly what I wanted to hear. And and, you know, I get asked about that 30 by 30 initiative all the time, you know, 30% women in law enforcement by 02/1930, and I detest it. Know, it would be great, I guess, we had 30 It'd be great if we had 50% of women in law enforcement to represent the population, but you can't hire people just because of their sex. And having been a cop for twenty nine years, I can tell you and I ran my recruitment team, and I was very involved in all of that, But not everybody's interested in this career, so we just gotta hire people who wanna do it. I don't care about their sex.

Betsy Smith: 24:45

I don't care about their color, but we can't damage this profession just for DEI, for woke policies. And again, we saw this. This exploded on the international scene in Butler, Pennsylvania last year. And and I don't want you to tell tales out of school, but I have to ask you, why don't we know more about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania when president Trump got shot?

Rich Staropoli: 25:13

Well well, two things I'll say. If if you take a look at this background I've got, you know, dropped in behind me, I didn't pick that randomly to make myself look better. It would take a lot more than that. But that blue line that's there, you'll notice it doesn't say anything about women. It doesn't say anything about color.

Rich Staropoli: 25:26

It's blue. That's all I'm looking for to start when I'm interviewing somebody to become, you know, a cop. I don't care about any others I can teach the other stuff I don't care if you've got any experience but it's that blue and the motivation behind that is what I'm looking for it to this job- You know, other thing is, why aren't we recruiting from military installation? You've got plenty of veterans that have done 11 tours, 12 tours. Talk about experience.

Rich Staropoli: 25:54

Get me some of those folks and you know, you have a problem recruiting women? Hey, I don't know what a staff sergeant makes in the military but I can certainly tell you as a copper as a federal agent I can triple your salary overnight. Right easily- so I think there's huge opportunity there that just isn't used as effectively as it should be. Why don't we know anything more about what happened in Butler listen that there's no doubt I don't want to use the word- conspiracy is people right away it will start thinking about will it rich are you saying like the Easter bunny and the abominable snowman were involved in the shooting of. No that's not what I'm saying.

Rich Staropoli: 26:29

The level of collusion that went on between the senior leadership at the Secret Service. The FBI the attorney general's office and the Biden prime family corrupt administration. I cannot be underestimated There is no way meetings took place at the senior levels of the secret service with the 12 or 13 assistant directors, the deputy director, and the director, and they just, you know, decided it was, there's no real threat level against former president Trump. Let's turn off all the Secret Service assets independently. That had to be directed by my orcas at DHS, that trip keeper of an attorney general that we had, and the White House themselves.

Rich Staropoli: 27:10

Because all the assets that normally somebody of former president Trump's status would have gotten. Look, the guy was target number one on the Iranian hit list. Target number two was Mike Pompeo. I know that for a fact because Mike Pompeo is not only a friend, he happens to be a board member at my company. So I've he shows up with a detail from state department.

Rich Staropoli: 27:32

That's three times the size of what was afforded former president Trump. I've also had a number of conversations with some of the Trump family. So I know for a fact that Butler was the one and only time in a year and a half where the Secret Service provided countersniper support to former president Trump. And I purposely say former president Trump because that's what the secret service was banking on. They treated president Trump like he was a routine former, like he was Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, or even president Bush.

Rich Staropoli: 28:02

There's no way they did that independently. So to answer your question, why do we know so little about the investigation? The reason is because so little investigation was done. Nothing was done. The FBI said they went out and interviewed a thousand people.

Rich Staropoli: 28:16

Let me see those reports. Why did they all say so and so was interviewed? He had nothing to say. Are you kidding me? You didn't interview anyone.

Rich Staropoli: 28:24

You disposed of that body after that guy's head was exploded like a pumpkin on that flat, very flat rooftop, by the way, which was written within handgun reach of the president. Nobody had an issue with that. You were more concerned about the optics. You had a shift of six Secret Service agents. What is the probability?

Rich Staropoli: 28:42

It's just the statistical probability if I randomly picked six Secret Service agents, 50% of them, three of them would be female. That just wouldn't happen. So somebody stepped in and said, no, no, no. Get rid of the guys. I want three women in there.

Rich Staropoli: 28:54

And the women that they picked, they weren't even close to the task of fulfilling the mission of the Secret Service. Did anyone listening to this have any confidence in the ability of the Secret Service to provide adequate protection to President Trump after seeing what went on in Butler and then repeated itself almost on that golf course in in Florida. It's a travesty of what they've turned the Secret Service into. I'm almost embarrassed to tell people anymore that I was a Secret Service agent.

Betsy Smith: 29:22

Well, I tell you, I do believe that the agency is going to come back. I think we're really on the right track. I think federal law enforcement in general is on the right track, but it's going to take some time. It's going to take some hard work, and it's going to take some healing for people to get our confidence back. Rich, I we're I'm gonna have to have you back, but but we gotta go in a minute here.

Betsy Smith: 29:51

Tell folks where they can find you, find, you know, your social media, what you're doing now, all that.

Rich Staropoli: 29:57

Listen. With with the last name that I've got, I'm not too hard to find. You can find me on on LinkedIn if you wanna reach out. Every now and then I will post something like I'll post this on on my my Twitter account. I pop up on Fox News, you know, pretty regularly, so I'm not that hard to find.

Rich Staropoli: 30:12

My day job, know, my day job is Rivada Networks and, you know, we build satellite communications, so you can always reach me through there as well.

Betsy Smith: 30:22

Rich, I'm telling you, I am so glad we got to have this conversation, and I thank you so much for spending time with us today. And if you'd like more information about the National Police Association, you can visit us at nationalpolice.org.

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